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- Path: FreeNet.Carleton.CA!an171
- From: an171@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Anthony Hill)
- Subject: Re: Astounding high CPS rate!
- Message-ID: <DL1vxE.2yp@freenet.carleton.ca>
- Sender: an171@freenet5.carleton.ca (Anthony Hill)
- Reply-To: an171@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Anthony Hill)
- Organization: The National Capital FreeNet
- References: <4cvsii$h0@horus.infinet.com> <4d3smg$cbi@news.hal.com>
- Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 04:17:38 GMT
-
-
- Dwight Elvey (elvey@hal.COM) writes:
- > In article <4cvsii$h0@horus.infinet.com>, armhead@infinet.com (Bob Selfinger) writes:
- > |> I have recently gotten a series of very high CPS dl's
- > |> on 14.4 ZMODEM of ZIP files.
- > |>
- > |> Now, I have been suffering from line noise, (I need to
- > |> get down to the basement and re-route a phone line which
- > |> I installed paralell to electric wiring - duuugh, I thought
- > |> that was OK at the time). I have been getting 1000 - 1300
- > |> because of the noise. I used to get about 1620 or so
- > |> before the line noise started.
- > |>
- > |> I have just gotten some dl's in the range of 1800-2100!
- > |> I never got that, even before the noise. It is not the files
- > |> being compressable or anything like that. They were all zip
- > |> files from various sources.
- > |>
- > |> Here is the thing... I was going between two PC's, each on a
- > |> separate phone line in the same house. Now, a severely
- > |> uninformed person might have predicted this - Hey, there is
- > |> only a short distance to go! But I know (or thought I knew!)
- > |> that this would not make any difference - the call still has
- > |> to go all the way to the phone office and then back, and these
- > |> two phone lines are each on different exchanges from each other.
- > |> I just don't see why this should have worked so well. Both
- > |> lines are noisey. I was expecting 1000-1300 CPS as usual.
- > |> I am stumped. Both PC's are still getting 1000-1300 on dl's
- > |> from BBS's. What is happening here?
- > |> --
- > |> =========================================>
- > |> Bob Selfinger
- > |> armhead@infinet.com
- > |> =======================>
- > |>
- >
- > Hi
- > Several factors are involved in the CPS of a connection. The
- > connect speed is only one part of a hole string of potentially
- > weak links. The BBS disk speed, processor and software are part
- > of the equation as well. Many BBS's have multiple lines going
- > into the same machine. This can also slow things down. Much
- > of the software that BBS people are using was written and optimized
-
- While some of these things can cause problems, the modems are
- almost always the slow link of the connection. It doesn't take much
- processing power to send out the data to the serial port. Even ISDN TAs,
- which can run at up to 128kbps, are usualy the slow link when connecting
- to a BBS. Now, connecting to internet FTP sites is another story
- altogether.
-
- > for 9600 baud connections. On top of this, you probably have your
- > modems set for v.42bis. Depending on the modems ability to recognize
- > compressed data, this can slow transfers. Remember its the sending
-
- Unless the modem is defective, v.42bis will properly detect
- whether or not the compressed frame is larger then the uncompressed frame,
- so the only way it'll slow things down is through it's character or two of
- overhead (rather insignificant). MNP5 on the other hand, will not check
- the size of the packets and just sends the compressed packet regardless.
- This CAN slow down transfer speeds considerably.
-
- > end that desides this. Add all the variables up and you'll see
- > that there is a variation. It is even possible that the connect
- > speed isn't 14.4 when you talking to the BBS. Different modems
- > seem to report this differently.
-
- On really noisy lines this can often be a problem. In some cases
- they will only connect at 12000 or 9600.
-
- > ( PS I typically get ~1800 CPS with a 14.4K modem on transfers of
- > compressed files and have seen 2400 CPS with text file and
- > v.42bis )
-
- Well, FWIW the absolute maximum that a 14.4 will transfer data at
- without the use of compression is 1800cps, this is the very defintion of a
- 14.4 modem. In reality you'll never see those kinds of speeds, since
- error control requires some overhead. Almost all 14.4 modems on the
- market will transfer data at around 1700cps. Of course, the software used
- to measure throughput for modems ranges from the "almost accurate" to the
- "intentionally misleading" <cough> Terminate <ahem>.
-
- Anthony
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- Anthony Hill | an171@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
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